I watched crisis on 2 earths and JL doom. They had some epic moments (especially 2 earths for that Batman vs Owlman fight) but neither quite compare to under the red hood. I also dug up some other DC movies but for some reason when I tried to watch Batman superman public enemies it won't let me see the rest of the movie past the part where they fight Metallo. It's frustrating when I can't watch complete movies/episodes. Worse than not being able to find the english Dub of anime you know is available in english. Oh and Rass, I wish you'd stay on the IRC long enough for me to notice you're there. :(
Crisis and Doom are two of my favorites, I think I just like all the action (especially that Owlman/Batman fight scene)! Also, Phil Bourassa's character designs are excellent in Crisis. Apparently there is going to be another Justice League film, Justice League: Flashpoint, which sounds promising.
The Superman/Batman movies are pretty fun too. Not excellent story telling, but Apocalypse is another of my favorite DC movies.
Just wondering, how do you watch the films? There are - ways - that you can watch them without them stopping.
Anyway, I'm gonna go ahead and list the Premiere movies in order of which I think are best;
Batman: Year One: absolutely fantastic, I highly recommend it. It's fun watching it and seeing how much Nolan took from the comics for The Dark Knight trilogy.
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths: was the first I saw, and is so much fun. Another fantastic movie.
Justice League: The New Frontier: is so good, I feel with some tweaking it could make a good live-action film. It's so unique, in that it's set post-Vietnam War. It's like a mix of The Incredibles and Watchmen. Brilliant.
Superman VS The Elite: is the most recent film, and poses some really interesting questions. I really don't like Superman in general, but I thoroughly enjoyed this.
Justice League: Doom: the reason I love this is because it feels like someone's taken three episodes of the old Justice League series and edited it into movie format. Animation a bit botchy, but movie is excellent nonetheless.
Batman: Under the Red Hood: I just want to curl up and cry when I watch this. I love the story, I love the failed Batman, I love the relationship between Jason and Bruce. Another movie that should be reinterpreted in live-action.
Superman/Batman: Apocalypse: this is one of the movies I love but I shouldn't. Everyone else hated it! I just love the Trinity sans the Justice League, and I don't care what everyone else says, I liked the character designs! :P
Superman/Batman: Public Enemies: fun, I hate the character designs though. They just look like balloons. The plot is okay, I just feel like the film needs something more.
Green Lantern: First Flight: this is where my reviews start to go down... I prefer this to the live-action Green Lantern. It's a good installment, but I sometimes felt like I was watching an episode of Buzz Lightyear: Star Command...
Wonder Woman: it's good, I enjoyed it, but it just doesn't have that "WOW factor" that the others do. It works, the animation is nice, you'll enjoy it, but you won't have that feeling of "I want to watch it again". I've only revisited it twice.
Superman: Doomsday: yeah, I'm not a Superman fan. In saying that, it's a good movie, I just don't have an interest in it, and the pacing feels off to me. You might like it.
Batman: Gotham Knight: I see what they were going for here, and I appreciate it, but this kind of storytelling just doesn't interest me. It's made as though it could fit in the Nolanverse, but still, I prefer a more narrative structure.
Green Lantern: Emerald Knights: is a movie you want to end about halfway through. This would have worked much better if it was just a series of shorts like Batman: Gotham Knight, it didn't have to be tied together with Hal and that female Lantern.
All-Star Superman: this movie is actually a mess. It seems like someone's taken a 20 episode television series, and picked their favorite scenes, and thrown them together for this nonsense. I liked the last four or five lines. That's it.
So even though some got bad reviews, try and watch all of them. You might like the ones I don't, heck, you might love them! Also, I'd expect that Superman VS The Elite will drop a few places, it might only be up there because it's new, and I haven't seen it to death yet.
The Flashpoint movie i am looking forward to quite a bit, though i'm not sure if it will be a Justice League title. Havent seen New Frontier or Doomsday (doomsday because i also am not really a superman fan and New Frontier because the cover art-style always scares me away). All are very much worth seeing and it does very much depend on personal tastes with these; for me although i agree that Green Lantern Emerald Knights could have worked differently i found each segment amazing and since im a big fan of Arisia i dont mind the in between scenes, i found more issue with their Krona. While with Gotham Knights i couldnt hold out with it. Superman VS the Elite, i loved Superman gone bad at the end and liked the design for Lois, but the rest of it i disliked to an extent. Similarly i loved Wonder Woman, what's your take on the DC Showcases?
Personally, I think that Superman/Batman: Apocalypse was just too rushed and a bit cliched. The whole deal with Kara feeling "betrayed" by Superman and then turn against him in a blink of an eye was overkill. "You don't want me so I'm staying with his menacing and ugly god who kidnapped me! *At least he wants me..." Argh. There are some good moments though.
I actually liked Green Lantern: Emerald Knights. As for the rest, I pretty much agree with Rass.
Batman: Under the Red Hood: The definitive Jason Todd story, better than the comic book. Also, a feast because they made him way too sympathetic in the reboot. Jason is, and always was, an asshole, not a gritty antihero. Jim Piddock also makes one of the better Alfreds I've ever heard.
Justice League: The New Frontier: I'm a big, big Darwyn Cooke fan, and I loved this. Okay, it doesn't have quite as many speaking parts as the miniseries, but that never works on film. David Boreanaz was a bit wooden, Jeremy Sisto did Golden Age Batman perfect, and why did no-one come up with casting Lucy Lawless before?
Batman: Year One: good story, but I don't like the Millerian monologue in voice over. It only works with a good voice. Fingers crossed for Dark Knight Returns. I really loved Eliza Dushku, though.
Green Lantern: First Flight: still don't like how they eviled up Boodikka (and made her a gentle girl - she's a violent maniac! she took down Lobo! (if you know what I mean)) Nonetheless, some of the best voices of the lot. It was the first time Sinestro was done justice (he was one of the worse DCAU characters), and it's very tricky to get Kilowog's voice right.
Superman vs The Elite: like Rass, not a big Superman fan, but for some reason, the stories where he is confronted with his morals tend to be the better ones.
Green Lantern: Emerald Knights: I liked the framework. A pity they couldn't bet R. Lee Ermey to do ErmeyDeegan.
Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths: good story, if somewhat dime a dozen, standard mirror universe stuff. Good voices, except for Batman.
Superman/Batman: Apocalypse: my initial response was "Darkseid does not sound threatening enough". But rewatching it, I learned to accept it in its own merit. New Gods are always amazing.
Justice League: Doom: it has the Royal Flush Gang (and I'm crazy about the RFG), but for the rest, not impressive.
Superman: Doomsday: Not bad, but I did not like the character design. Good voice work.
Wonder Woman: I did not like the dialogue and voices. They all seemed so unnatural. The solution to the zombie dilemma was too contrived. Music was good though.
Superman/Batman: Public Enemies: indeed, balloony characters. Also, the problem with these adaptations straight from the comics is the difficulty of character origins. Power Girl is pretty much unexplained, and yet there's an entire movie about Supergirl. Also, Conroy and Daly seemed to have an off-day. And Captain Atom and Major Force are completely done wrong.
All-Star Superman: The comic was a miniseries, of which I am not a fan (though Leo Quintum is amazing). I remember after this came out, I discussed it with a coworker, and we both agreed it was horrible to watch, way too many short episodes. At least they didn't adapt the Bizarro issue. Not McDuffie's finest hour.
Batman: Gotham Knight: Wasn't interesting. Only seen it a couple of times.
If I was to buy any comic series. It would definitely be The New Frontier. The more I think about the movie the more I like it. I might actually look into it.
Something I've completely forgotten about The Elite is Lois Lane! I loved loved loved Pauley Perrette as Lois, and should we see Lois in YJ, I want Pauley to voice her.
And it's interesting that Tupka says that Sinestro was done right, because that animated movie was my first exposure to the character, and then when I was watching JLU, I was always wondering why he never had an origin, and why the hell he was wearing his Green Lantern uniform while using the yellow ring. But anyway.
Apocalypse was definitely rushed an cliche, but I still love it anyway. I think because it was the first time I'd seen Darkseid, and that excited me, and it still does. Even when watching JLU, I still prefer Darkseid and the rest of Apokolips in the animated movie.
That's one thing I resent about the JL/JLU series. There were so many new villains, almost none of which were given origins. Sure, you don't need to introduce every one of them, but still. I think villain origins are so interesting if they're done correctly.
I really liked the Green Arrow short, though I didn't like Black Canary's design. As for the Catwoman short, I sort of liked how ridiculous it was, it was really stupid. Like at the end how she swings away like Spider-Man, excellent stuff there! :P
Right, well seen New Frontier now. Didnt really like the emphasis on Hal but i guess it's just because in the span of about 1 & a half years that makes about 5 different origin tellings for him alone.
Beyond that though i thought it was another one of DC's greats, the more minor appearances i loved, Captain Cold worked impressively, King Faraday was great, Ray Palmer i noticed in the easter eggs and i didnt really get their explanation for his contribution (Light?, come now it's White Dwarf Star). the usage of him as the key was great since im on a big Atom high atm. Aquaman's appearance was random though..biggest shock though, Rick Flag Jr at the end though was surprisingly touching.
Another easter egg: those two doubting scientists in the same scene are Prof Haley (of the Challengers of the Unknown) and Doc Magnus (of the Metal Men).
The movie's full of easter eggs that you can only tell by reading the comic. You know that scene with Captain Cold, the view pans past a couple with black hair? Bruce and Selina. The driver of the ugly orange experimental aircraft? Thomas Kalmaku. The beret woman that works for Faraday? Mademoiselle Marie. The gray haired guy in the interrogation scene? Jim Gordon. Nathaniel Adam and Larry Trainor show up in the final battle. There are loads, loads more
thought one of them would be a challenger though i missed the Metal Men till the final scenes there, surprised on the bruce and selina bit though considerring neither sprang into action, Gordon and Trainor i noticed (Trainor WAS in bold letters taking up most the screen afterall). It's amazing how subtle DC movies can be with their content for more eagle eyed fans.
The comic has much, much more. More Challengers of the Unknown, more Adam Strange, more Nathaniel Adam, but less Batman and Green Arrow.
Bruce and Selina weren't originally at the concert, but at the boxing match nearby - between Ted Grant and Cassius Clay (renamed Cooke for the movie). There was a whole VIP box scene in the comic, with Bruce, Selina, Ted, Lois, Clark (IIRC), Ollie and Carol, who's brought Rick Flagg as a date. They added the character models of Bruce and Selina to the movie for the heck of it. They didn't move because they didn't want to animate them.
Another weakness, one that Batman regularly exploits when Superman is mind controlled: Superman does not kill. No matter how powerful the mind control is. Batman doesn't kill either, but he's willing to stoop lower.
So, the Kryptonite weakness is something about it's composition based on matter from krypton that's become radioactive and red sun energy is because it saps the strength he gets from yellow sun energy. What's the story about his weakness to magic?
well magic sides sort of my mainstay, zatanna, doctor fate, captain marvel family, black marvel family (sounds racist but isnt), zauriel, alan scott, endless, constantine, swamp thing, Spectre, Hawk and Dove, Metamorpho Etirigan, Vandal Savage, main varients of hawkman and woman, Hitler and his Spear of Destiny (they're just the main ones and you probably know them (with marvel magic is often not all that obvious). Part of the reason superman is weak to magic is because the magic heroes are often practically gods in DC (some just are gods). The other reason was so that they didnt have to explain why superman didnt head off to germany and win the war by himself
I thought Metamorpho's powers were rooted in science. Last time I checked, Alan Scott was the first Green Lantern so why is he on the list of magic users? I don't remember ever hearing anything about Vandal using magic and some of the people you mentioned I've never even heard of. You forgot Traci 13 and pretty much all the magic users we've seen in YJ asside from Doctor Fate and Zatanna. Also, I remember something about Madame Xanadu and Inza being magic users in the comics that one time when I looked up Doctor Fate.
Metamorpho got his powers from the Orb of Ra, it was fashioned from a radiated meteor but channelled powers of an egyptian priest who was the first metamorpho, Ahk-Ton. Ra the Sun God of the egyptian pantheon was then the empowerring facotr in all metamorphs, including Rex Mason. Alan Scott used the Starheart instead of the Green Lantern power rings. Starheart was magic, empowerred by the Green. Vandal was a magic being by the Church of Crime's intro. He was the god that the Crime Bible worships as Cain. Eventually they used the dark rituals he founded to empower Savage to god-like power. Empowerment is enough to make anything you do class as magic when superman is concerned. And i didnt forget her so much as not consider her a main Player in DC's magical community.
Supermans weakness : Kryptonite, drowning.....
Batmans: Polio, AIDS, Fast trucks, Cancer, heart attacks, bullets, arrows, the joker, Poisson, lethal injections, Karma, venomous spiders, most things that live in Australia, drowning, being set on fire, bat to the head, stab wound, SARS, anthrax, choked to death...ect, ect.
POINT IS Humas, vs, a man with super speed. Being fast than light/sound/bullet, = no one can out manoeuvre you! (except a FLASH mod!)
Lorisa, some of the things you named for Batman were pointless and shouldn't have been included. Anyway, for Superman there's Kryptonite, red sun radiation, magic, mind control, people with equal/superior strength as well as actual fighting skills, asphyxiation (unless it's a universe where kryptonians inexplicably don't need to breathe) and a bunch other methods of exploiting his flaws. Given all his powers, he STILL can't seem to beat Lex Luthor. On the other hand, there's Batman, who through intense effort and training, is quite resilient and knows how to get around that pesky being human issue. He regularily fights supervillains and just about every type of insanity out there. If Batman had superpowers, all the other heroes would become redundant. Sure Superman has superpowers but that doesn't mean he's invincible and that there's no way to beat him, especially in the comic book universe of all places. Why don't you compare their non physical traits, see who wins THOSE comparisons? Hint: it's Batman.
your on a website full of batman fans Lori, you dont really have much hope of winning this discussion. Besides if there's anyone in dc who can suvive Australia it's Batman, superman'd get done in my a magical dropbear, magical snake river monster, the yowies, plenty of magic her to beat superman.
You guys do know that this conversation is pointless, do you? I mean, first of all, it's off topic from what she was originally stating in the "Depths" discussion, and second, a lot of your points are based off of what you've read in the comics, which, as you should know, does not necessarily apply to Earth-16. Besides, even in the comics, the victor varies depending on circumstances and it's bound to vary even more on Earth-16.
Cari, I've never read a comic. I go by tv shows and what I know about the comics. Lori's the one who started this thread with the whole Batman vs Superman debate and frankly, it brings variety to the discussions I'm part of at the moment, even though they're pretty much all debates of some sort. Things don't have to be all YJ all the time, especially during a hiatus when everyone is out of new YJ related topics. None of us ever said this was about the YJ versions of the characters and we ARE debating multiple circumstances and methods of comparison.
Whatever guys! to me your comparing a mouse to a lion. Hes human, just b/c it shows him doing crap in the comics/shows/movies, does NOT mean a real human can do it. Watch the Olymics next week (s?) that what REAL awesome (humans) looks like.
ANYWAYS! has anyone see the new Spiderman?!
Loves it! Go see!!!!!!
Lori, listen to yourself. "Hes human, just b/c it shows him doing crap in the comics/shows/movies, does NOT mean a real human can do it." Last time I checked, humans don't have superpowers and none of the aliens portrayed in comics exist, seeing as not only do we have yet to discover life from somewhere other than earth but there's no way extraterrestrials would look anywhere near human, let alone have superpowers. That argument is completely redundant when talking about comics. As for your other 2 comments/questions, I was supposed to watch the spiderman movie the other day but didn't get a chance to so no spoilers and no, I have no site to direct you to.
took the words out of my mouth, except i was also going to say that the mouse kindof beat the lion so... also if batman is a mouse he's this kind. I havent either, i didnt realise it came out already tho. must get on to that.
oh and i think Lori was meaning that you already directed her to a site where everyone was agreeing that superman would win.aka youtube.
Where's the fun in a site where everyone has the exact same opinion as you? I'm a very talkative person that has a way with words. what better place for me than somewhere that has me participating in like 5 different heated debates at the same time? Oh and I think this would be a more appropriate animal for the animal comparison earlier.
Guys in comics there are 'rules' either you are human, or your not! SM's NOT! BM is!
So the rules of human limitations would apply to him. I could kill bats. It's called a bullet to the head. b/c he's not invulnerable. B/c he's human. He could slip on ice and die....W/E guys, I'm done w this conversation. It's like trying to tell twilighters that real vampires don't sparkle....
Also Regulus22, I don't think that was a mouse, but a groundhog.
Lori, you yourself are being unreasonable. You don't give Batman enough credit. Despite being human, he gets around some of the limitations through effort, training and equipment. Superman isn't an allpowerful god that can crush all humans. Heck, he can't even keep Lex in jail. Watch your mouth comparing us to Twilight fans. People can dodge bullets and who the heck dies from slipping on icecream? You're just going out of your way to bring down Batman while speaking to Batman fans. What did you expect the conversation was going to turn into? A Superman love fest? Comparing Batman and Superman isn't meant to be on sheer physical traits and who would win in some random fight. There's also stuff like who's a better person, is smarter, has more skill, is the superior combattant (technique, not strength), which one is more interesting and so on. But all you want to talk about is how Superman has this power, that power, Batman's human and therefore can't win. You have to admit that's a rather shallow argument. Everyone knows the "rules" of comic books are extremely variable and allow for humans beating aliens so that part of your argument is invalid. Regulus' picture may not be a mouse but it's still a rodent, which pertains to the comparison you made. Lastly, no you cannot take on Batman, next time say Supergirl instead of refering to yourself as your profile pic, which is subject to change.
First of all, she said "slip on ice", not "slip on ice cream". Second, debate all you want but you cannot argue with the fact that Superman is more powerful than Batman. And third, she said that she was done with the conversation and I don't blame her 'cause to me, it looks really stupid. So unless you want to be blocked like Matthew Nasmith was, I suggest that you let this conversation be settled right here.
Ok, I think I see the problem here. I'm using realistic human logic, on a 'real' human, but in a fantasy world, where it apparently doesn't apply. You don't think Olympic athletes don't ALL want to win to gold? Just b/c you train your ass off 4 something, does not mean you'll get it. I ran a race 2 weeks ago, and only came in 5th, out out..less than 1,000. I very much understand human limitations, I'm 22, and in my prime! I don't underestimate Bats. I like him, he is the brains of their troops. Private schools, private training, the whole 9 yards. CK did public schools, and did really well in Science & welding (lol) But I was never comparing any of that, only brut force. In a fight to the death, who would logically win.
But no one will ever REALLY know, b/c its whatever the writers decide for an issue...plus they aren't real.
Cari: Matthew was spewing constant hate about Tim over the apparent absence of Jason in the YJ series. This conversation is nothing like that and far more civilized. If you think it looks so stupid then why are you here? I've been trying to get the debate to touch on other aspects than physical strength but apparently I'm the only one who cares about that. You shouldn't be talking about this thread looking stupid since as I recall, many people thought you constant complaining about the timeskip was getting dumber by the day. Also, need I point out that she started this discussion?
Lori: When was this ever about what real humans can do? Comic books weren't meant to be realistic and it's unfair to bind humans to real world logic while letting the stuff that only exists in comic books such as aliens be free to do whatever because there's no real world equivalent. Why do you stubornly adhere to only looking at the physical aspects when we could explore other angles as well? I just wanted to make you realise that there are ways for humans to beat Superman, despite his ridiculously variable ammount of power, which differs ammong the versions and that's another thing you need to keep in mind.
1. I never intended to start a debate with my rants about the time-skip. I just wanted to express my opinions and the reason I did so more than once was to give updates on whether or not I've changed my mind about it.
2. Lorisa only made this thread in order to be extra sure that you saw that picture. She did not intend to get into this debate from the beginning. She was just mentioning that point in a rant about the responses in the "Ask Greg" blog and you guys got it on this topic when you responded to it.
3. The fact that you were trying to convince Lorisa that there are many ways to defeat Superman makes this conversation look even more stupid because it shows that you two were arguing about two entirely different things! She was talking about who would be the victor in a fair fight, with merely brute force, and you were putting in all those factors as to how Batman would tactically have an advantage over Superman.
4. What would make this conversation similar to one with Matthew Nasmith is that he just continued with it no matter what people said to him and it eventually seemed like he just wanted to debate with people for the heck of it. Unless this conversation ends at some point, it's gonna seem like just like that.
1. That's not what it looked like to other pewople.
2. She didn't need to make extra sure, 1 time is enough and as I was part of a discussion on that blog, I was going to see it no matter what. She should've been perfectly aware that bringing up that subject on top of saying a certain outcome was plainly obvious was guaranteed to start this discussion and now she has to deal with the resulting discussion.
3. As I've said, it's pointless to adhere to only one aspect. Sure, Superman has superstrength and all that but he is not invincible and there are ways for humans to beat him. It's not all about superpowers, nor is it always about fighting.
4. I've been on WAY longer threads than this. Conversations can go on for quite some time. That doesn't mean they fall into the same category as the Matt rants. Also, it seems I've presented more varied answers than Lori.
2. well not necessarily but since you get quicker notifications to your wall it was fairly obvious that it'd just continue on to here
3. By that definition then having superman under yellow sun in an unfair advantage, in real world combat a fight is considerred unfair by weight classes because larger figures would have greater power, may not always be the case but additional power makes it un unfair fight. Allowing batman to use all of his tactical ways to defeat superman is allowing him to use his superpower, it may be getting an advantage from his belt but superman gets the same advantage from the sun. which would be considerred outside assistance. Take superman out of the yellow sun, take away all of batman's toys, friends, all knowledge, then it's fair fight with no clear victor, just a couple grown men with no fighting talent brawling.
4. We're all using proper (comic or real world) logic and are not directly insulting or omitting the others opinions, we just arent quite on the same page and are trying to correct that.
Regulus has a great point if this would be a fight some how find a way to make it fair for superman take the sun away and batman take his "toys" away even though then batman would most likely win only because he has the skills and training to win enough said
You're lucky I saw all the episodes the other day. I'm still mad at Dtuck for spoiling some of it after I told him I didn't see it yet. I agree that lots of characters got ripped off but it's not automatically racist if the only black person is the one that does the sacrifice, especially if they survive, though I see your point. It was too rushed.
Didn't see the episodes. I stopped after the Spider-Man one, I couldn't watch the show anymore knowing it would be cancelled and that Josh's voice was dubbed. And the reason why the episode my seem rushed, was because Jeph Loeb took control over the show, after the two original ppl who controlled the show left after the Spidey episode.
Okay, when I first read this I still had the last episode to watch... now that I have, I agree with poke except maybe the last thing. It wasn't really "Black guy dies first". But I thought the whole teleportation thing was a copout. Can't heroic sacrifices just be heroic sacrifices? Can't heroes die?
And wow. Seriously, they shoehorned in Galactus in one episode? They've had five episode arcs to introduce the other villains, and this one, arguably the biggest, gets only one episode (and we're reminded that, oh yeah, in case you forgot or completely missed it, he was indeed mentioned in an earlier episode). Why did Surtur get sidelined?
One more beef about the finale: sooo many guest stars, and who gets the attention? Spidey. Again. Seriously guys at Marvel, the Heroes for Hire are much funnier. The other ones barely got any lines (Sue and Winter Soldier none at all, but they get actor credit?) and their grunts sounded not like their regular voices at all.
All in all, really disappointed. It took a nosedive in story quality in the second season.
Make John Rozum run away, screaming? Also, move him out of Dakota City, taking away his supporting cast, and giving him the Power Rangers and Joker and Killer Croc wannabes as villains.
It's not Static, it's a dime a dozen teen title. Where is the social drama of stories like Louder than a Bomb, or Between a Rick and a Hard Place? Nobody seems to be able to handle the Milestone characters particularly well since they got swallowed into the DCU.
Nope, the comic. The horrible, horrible New 52 comic.
The show at least had good stories (though many of them were awful). McDuffie and Cowan worked on it. It had some changes (mainly because the powers that be wanted it that way) but for a kids series, it worked fine.
So sad that Avengers: EMH ended on weak note. Was the Ultron's Returns/Vision's appearance rushed? And what happen to Red Hulk and did Hulk return after the Skrull's plan failed. (I don't care if you spoil it for me, I just wanna know)
Wow this got pretty popular fast! anyways I've read that Red Hulk is a avenger in the comics. HOW ! They should of ended it good but instead it ended meh! Now they are replacing with Avengers Assembled. I'll only watch it if Pym and T'challa are in it . As Yellowjacket/Antman and Black Panther
Ok, it officially sucked. The Skrull invasion was definitely poorly executed, rushed and anti-climactic. Pym's storyline, and whatever his problem was, I didn't get it or cared about. Vision was poorly used, that's for sure. Loki was turned into a wimp and what the freaking heck happened to Surtur's plot line?! And don't get me started on Galactus. Ms. Marvel was another letdown. Jennifer Hale's voice just didn't did it for me, for some reason.
The first season was a breath of fresh air and it was the first Marvel show I enjoyed after SpecSM. It was engaging and thrilling and I actually cared about almost every character, most of whom I knew little about, because all those terrible Marvel shows we're been plagued over the last decades. The second season was not bad, but it certainly wasn't good. Just... average. I found myself going from episode to episode without caring about what was happening. And I don't thing Josh Keaton's voice-over would have made much of a difference, to be honest. Sadly, the show won't be missed; not with another season like this. It would have been better off being canceled after the first season, and become one of those shows that "were great but got canceled and left us craving for more" than ending on this note. Marvel just can't get it right...
At Comic-Con, Jeph Loeb said the new Avengers show will be a continuation of this series. And said something similar to this "We are trying to make the best MARVEL show possible". And believe it or not, the test footage looked pretty cool.
Well the plan of beautyful Enchantress wasnt finished yet and even started yet. Plus they make most character weak specially magic heroes and make the plot be more about 4 major heroes Captain America, Hulk, Ironman and Thor.
They cancelled it because they wanted to make a new series that could take place in the same universe as USM. However, they are apparently aware of their mistake with that show so the new avengers series won't be like USM. Feel free to remain suspicious as he's pretty much the one that butchered season 2 of AEMH.
I'm extremely pissed as a good show got cancelled because of a stupid idea . Hey in the episode Thor appeared in Ultimate Spiderman and in the first episode as well. The avengers are confirmed to exist in that contintuty
My picture? It's a trio of fairies from legend of Zelda. The yellow one is Tatl, the red one is Tael and the blue one is Navi. The picture itself is somethig I dug up on the internet one day. Navi is the first companion they gave Link back in legend of zelda ocarina of time. Naturally, they made her too insitant in terms of providing hints and tips so she got on alot of people's nerves. The other 2, Tatl and Tael, are sibling fairies from Majora's mask. Tatl gets separated from her brother and decides to help you as your companion for that game. They learned from Navi to make her less annoying and more opinionated.